Maybe the trailer is giving the right feel for the film.

It isn't my impression that Marie-Antoinette is a period movie in the traditional sense, so a trailer selling it as such would probably just throw people off. Admittedly that could have been fun, too.

The music in this trailer makes complete sense to me. The story is about accessive behavior, partying and a socialite lifestyle that is comparable to a modern "rock and roll" lifestyle. The song itself is one of the best New Order songs, and is a great example of Sofia Coppola's talent of mixing music with images. Taking the easy way out and resorting to a classic Waltz would have been cliche and uninteresting, and although it would have fit in with the costumes and period, it would've misrepresented the story, energy and essence of the images.

For me, to say that period pieces must have period music is similar to the arguement you and Nagy always have about an actor having to look the role when portraying popular comic book characters. Sometimes music can go against type and work wonder. Just look at one of the first films to really experiment with this, A Clockwork Orange. Exactly the opposite of this trailer, setting classical music to modern images of violence. That worked wonders and was powerful, this is no different in my eyes.

I see where you're coming from Jay, but to me, just grabbing some modern pop song is the easy way out. So I disagree with you... but you do make a good point.

Luckily they grabbed a lesser-known modern pop song, which is a good example of how some films are not only great films, but great tools for introducing or re-introducing great music. (and selling soundtracks of course!)

See, i think the easy way out would've been to just grab some sweeping orchestral score from another period drama and plop it over the trailer. Or even worse, the "In a world where romance reigns supreme.." voice over.

I think everyone was put off by the whole 'A Knight's Tale' fiasco. Luckily, in my eyes this works better then just taking the most typical hockey arena rock songs and setting it to jousting.

I guess i don't see it as a brainless mix-matching of genre's for novelty's sake. It suits this material better in my eyes. However, the same song set to a battle in Braveheart? Not good for business.

i really like this trailer.

i agree with jay c, these people are useless dandies. the trailer draws parellels between women like marie antoinette and women like paris hilton. i am thinking it is going to be taking a look at a culture of decadence.

also, i wonder if sofia on a personal level resents people like paris, who like her have famous/rich/powerful parents and then rather then following in their footsteps to greatness (as sofia is obviously tryign to do), just act like spoiled, stupid children.

i think this movie is goign to be great, and i hope it ends with the revolution and her head getting chopped off.

I always appreciate creative chances, but it's not the music that bothers me so much as it does the casting. When I watch the trailer I feel as if I'm watching a teen movie, but instead of them in modern clothing they're dressed in period costumes.

Yes, I know Kirsten and crew are not teens anymore, but she's done nothing to get us to believe she's moved on from those types of roles.

I can only hope that this movie isn't a piece of mindless fluff and that we get to see the famous beheading at the end.

i will bet you 20 dollars it is not mindless fluff.

i will bet all of you 20 dollars.

i don't think that is how sofia rolls. not one bit.

Am I the only one who thinks she looks like Billy Corgan from The Smashing Pumpkins?

It's not my type of a movie. Therefore, I wouldn't watch this flick if they gave it on tv. It would be a waste of time. :o)

LOL - Kristina!
It's funny you say that because I was listening to my favorite local radio show and they read an email this morning with a guy saying the same thing. I totally cracked up because if you imagine her with no hair the resemblance isn't too far off.

New Order a 'pop' band? That's a hoot. Next thing you know, someone will say Bauhaus was like Air Supply.

Okay, now that that stuff is out of the way...

*It is only a teaser, and the final score hasn't been done yet;

*Anyone who thinks this a female version of Knight's Tale suffers from brain damage;

*Sorry, John, there's nothing wrong with Kirsten Dunst;

*this may have been a studio's call not the director's.

*****however*****

There is such a thing as using temp music from other films. I don't suggest smething "noticeable" like, say, the theme from "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" or something out of "The Last Of The Mohicans" y'know. But maybe...something from say..."Master and Commander: Far Side Of The World" or "Passion Of The Christ". I'm serious as sin.

Or, if you really need to go contemporary, use someone like...Enigma, who I feel they might get away with.

New Order isn't pop? This is news to me.

I don't know that anyone would be brain dead enough to compare this movie to A Knights Tale, but I do know, based on this thread, that the use of modern music in both cases have obviously sparked debate. (Even though in this case, it's only a trailer)

I think based on Sofia Coppola's past musical choices (Air scoring The Virgin Suicides, Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine scoring Lost In Translation), we know that music plays a large role in the overall feel of her films, not unlike Wes Anderson or Quentin Tarantino's use of music. We also know that she has great taste in music, and manages to think outside the box. I can't see Enigma, or even worse, temp music from Passion of the Christ(WTF?) being thrown on top of this trailer. I guess it just comes back to thinking that simply dropping 'period' music into a period film (trailer or not) is good enough. Thank goodness Sofia Coppola actually has taste in music and decided to go for something different. Just the Sex Pistol's-esque look of the title card shows that there's a modern edge to this trailer, which will probably also apply to the final film.

Seeing how New Order started from the ashes of Joy Divison, I wouldn't call the long running group 'pop'. They were considered at one time, alternative/new wave.

I know Enigma was an off the cuff thing, and you can pretty much ID that sort of music a mile away- but what I meant by 'Passion' is the music itself; if I had simply said 'any score by John Denby' would you still say WTF? I was only using it as an example. I'm not saying that's the temp track for the trailer they should have used (oddly, you didn't say WTF for James Newton Howard's 'Master & Commander') because it isn't uncommon for early trailers to get temp music from other films. Let me put it this way: if a film trailer came out right now, and used a snippet of 'Passion Of The Christ" soundtrack, or Angelo Badalemti's score for 'Wild At Heart', and you didn't know that was the score they used for temping- would you know it right offhand?

Note I am NOT saying Sofia has a bad taste in music. And I'm only giving examples.

She lived kind of a rock style life, well for back then she did, so I believe thats one reason they used this song, kinda showing that, but I could be wrong.

Joey hits it on the head.

The only reason i say WTF to the passion music reference, is that this movie is nothing like any of the films you mentioned outside of the fact that it's a period piece. It's about Paris Hilton style excessive behaviour. A rock song sums it up perfectly and does the job when it comes to connecting the story to modern socialites and lifestyles.

As for New Order, yes new wave/alternative, but by 'pop' i mean sound, not genre. Blah, whatever. The Ramones were punk, but they wrote pop songs with pop hooks. It's probably not worth playing the name game over this anyways.

As for Angelo Badalamenti or a Passion snippet, it wouldn't matter if I recognized it or not, it just wouldnt' work with this trailer. Although i guess the life of Jesus could be compared to this story, wild parties ending in death by beheading/crucifixion.

I don't see how it's copping the easy way out. If she'd have gotten a classical piece that purportedly conveyed the same ideas Jay presented I'd bet my savings that all you'd get from it is "Ahh fitting music for a period piece" seeing as the average person isn't exactly versed in anything pre-20th century (pre-1990's even).

The last thing we need is another standard period piece, so if the trailer suggests that Marie Antionette is going to be anything but, then I'm happy with it. Besides, who wants Sofia Coppola doing a stuffy, possibly boring period piece, anyway? Not to say that all period pieces are boring, they aren't, but that's more Edward Zwick's territory. I am skeptical about Kirsten Dunst, however. Ok, very skeptical. But she was good in The Virgin Suicides, so maybe Coppola knows what she's doing with her. If get the Wimbledon version of Kirsten Dunst, uh, it could get ugly.

The New Order song is titled "The Age of Consent" from the album "Power, Corruption, and Lies". That seems appropriate.