We still don't REALLY know who the real 9/11 hijackers were and, thus, what they were about as people, etc. but I'd like to watch the film with the understanding that I can only regard it as semi-fictional and look at the story, acting, etc.

I'll be in London next week for the London Film Festival. Would you email me with the theatre you saw the film at?

You'd be surprised how much factual information this is based on, it is very close to the events.

I saw it on Channel 4 (UK Television) just after the Edinburgh Film Festival. Doing a quick search I can't see it playing anywhere in London this week.

Have you checked the London Film Festival listings to see if they are screening it?

We still don't REALLY know who the real 9/11 hijackers were...

Um, we don't?

I believe the names of every single one of them are known. As far as motivation,
it is the intent to spread fundamentalist Islam and the law of Sharia across the planet.

I highly recommend "Onward Muslim Soldiers" by Robert Spencer for an excellent
overview of the radical Islamist movement.

Vic

It's was also a backlash against what is precieved by radical Islam (and many people in the East) as the West destoying their culture and way of life (which is actually what we in the west do with commercialism).

Still... how did those fricken MORONS think killing innocent people was going to help their cause?

Best book I ever read on the topic is called Jihad Vs. McWorld. Check it out!

I checked, it's not showing at the LLF.

To be fair I don't know a single name of those proposed hijackers but I guess what I was trying to say was that since I fly a lot and don't always use my given name (for security reasons) I don't think a name on an airline log necessarily gives an accurate or honest profile of that person's background or life history is about. Now if they have that on these guys, fine.

Jihad vs. McWorld is a very good one to read. I'll check out Onward Muslim Soldiers...but not while I'm flying.

My final estimation is some people just prefer to act scummy. And there are scummy Muslims, scummy Jews, scummy Christians, scummy Atheists, etc. Everyone has hurt someone else at some point in history and I can't figure out why we humans just don't learn. We can come up with the technology to leave earth's atmosphere and visit the moon but we can't get some of the other basics down.

And there are scummy Muslims, scummy Jews, scummy Christians, scummy Atheists, etc.

I don't know if scummy is the right word. A Christian who cheats on his wife is scummy, but he doesn't do that in the name of God. Radical Muslims are chopping people's heads off in the name of God, and I don't think scummy is quite strong enough as a descriptor.

I don't want to get into a philosophical/political discussion, but don't get your hopes up that the human race will ever get past it's "issues". Some say we're hardwired that way, others say it's spiritual warfare, whatever you want to call it, we have flaws and always will.

Vic

Hey Crystal (and all those going to the London Film Festival) check this out from the Guardian.

As part of Europe's largest public film festival a 15-metre (50ft) wide inflatable screen has been erected in the square to show a selected programme of short films, trailers and festival interviews.

Cool! Can I get one for my back garden?

Rich,

I'm betting their erecting the screen in your back garden as we speak. So, will you be serving drinks for all your guests and new friends?

I wonder if the makers of this film are going to explain how these guys made NORAD stand down. Maybe we will finally get the answer to why many of them were trained at US Navel bases and why their houses were leased to them by FBI agents. If the film doesn't answer these questions, than it is crap and I pray for the souls of the disinfo agenst that produced it.

I wonder if the makers of this film are going to explain how these guys made NORAD stand down. Maybe we will finally get the answer to why many of them were trained at US Navel bases and why their houses were leased to them by FBI agents. If the film doesn't answer these questions, than it is crap and I pray for the souls of the disinfo agents that produced it.

Help me I've to hand in an essay early Janurary about the representation of terrorist using the Hamburg Cell as an example-appart form I haven't seen it and I can't get hold of it any where!! Any one recorded it off the tv? I really need a copy Iv tried everything!! Any bright ideas?

"The Hamburg cell" is a racist and anti-Islam movie. They have no right to make a movie like that. And they have no idea who the actual hijackers were! They just assume that the people who looked the most suspicious and who looked the most Muslim were automatically the terorrists. Thats called racism. This is an example of our society today. Nobody treats anyone with respects. Especially non-muslims, who treat muslims with the least respect. The 9/11 had nothing to do with Jihad, or Islam. You people don't even know what Jihad is. It means the "struggle" against evil thoughts and actions. Jihad is no holy war. The concept of Jihad is found in all religions including Christianity, Judaism, etc...
When Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City building, no American or Christian was labeled as a terrorist or was the target of hate crimes. Why is this so? Some people are just full of so much hatred, its sick!
So I ask you to spread the word that Islam and Terrorism don't go together, and should no be used in the same sentence. Nowhere in the Islamic Holy Book is it written that terrorism is stuck to this religion. Show some respect please!

hummmmmmmmm

Finally a movie about a sympathetic human side of these terrorists. It shows the struggle these individuals face in their quest to commit mass-murder. These are very normal, nice people just with a different goal than many. It also shows nicely how the islamic sub-culture that exists in most countries supports the lofty goals of the Jihadists and what a toll mass killings by suicide take on family life and relationships. Much to learn here about the cultural background, the obligatory training in a terrorist camp and the unresolved anger issues. It is very obvious that the makers of this movie have extremely high regards for the mass-murderers and sympathize with the plight of a modern Terrorist.

No, Shaz... I don't think this movie is anti-islamic and racist. Rather, i think it is showing a non-biased story, and account on how the terrorists of 9/11 made their plans and commenced their attacks.

When Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City, it was a white american person bombing a building in a (predominantly) white country. In the World Trade center bombing it was a foriegn group organizing and executing the simultaneous attacks on more than one part of the coutry... race crime could not arise since it was a white on white crime. race crimes can be applied when the victom and attacker are of different races.

The movie is not anti-islamic. in fact it is pretty unbiased since it looks at the hijackers expriences. It doesnt pass judgement on muslim, it brings into focus a certain group pf muslims - the fenatics, not all muslims.

It would be uneducated for anyone to stereotype all muslims based on the group pf muslims depicted in the movie. For example Jarrah's cousin is not depicted in any negative way, and so is jallah's fanily not hsow to be negative. Its the people Jappah met, and into what and how they changed him is the focus of the movie

Shez,

I understand your comments and can probably sympathize being a minority living in the U.S. However, it is hard not equate terrorism with muslim extremists. Everytime we hear of terrorists hijacking airplanes, bombing embassies, attacking naval warships, it's always a muslim extremist group that arises. How can you possibly disassociate the two? When the twin towers fell down there was video footage in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, Syria, etc...and in every single place the muslims (as they are islamic nations) the majority of the people were all celebrating the worst calamity since the holocaust. I am not prejudice against muslims. My brother in law is from pakistan and know many people of islamic background. But when you see thousands of people celebrate as they watch sooooo many innocent people die, it's pretty hard to stomach. We can't judge based on what a group of people do, but when you see so many muslims attacking america in so many ways, and never a peaceful manner, it makes you think really hard.

"one spoon of motor oil can poison an entire naval ship's drinking water"

This movie was amazing. I thought it was realistic and very interesting. Everyone needs to relax and realize that the people that did it, did it. No matter what religion or ethnic background they were. I say take the time to see it.

Whassup all.

Here in Sydney for film festival. Saw Haburg Cell last night. EXTREMELY powerful move.

It is approaching September 2005. Has it really been four years? Only now, perhaps, will we start to see movie makers tackling the real stories of very real people such as these. This movie is an excellent way to start.

A recent movie on Hitler (Downfall) was attacked for attempting to humanise this heavily demonized character. But he was of course a real person, with his own story, just like the rest of us in that respect.

The 9/11 hijackers have also been heavily demonized. Seeing them as human beings going through very ordinary events may be extremely confronting for some. It is harder to maintain such rigid views on their actions when we see them as being like us in some respects.

One rather chilling point for me came when I associated some of the language used by the characters with some very similar language I have heard personally in christian churches ("spiritual war", "don't let the devil tempt you with the lures of this world", etc). It was a reminder that the potential for believing in something fervently enough to bring harm to others resides in many, many places, and with many different groups.

As with everything, UNDERSTANDING of those who differ from us is key. Pasting on simplistic labels ("evil", etc) only ever makes things worse.

Assalam alaikum,

I like the comments some of them are thought provoking. But, my question is how can I buy this on DVD, can one buy this docu-drama yet? Is it available now?

Librado sez...

{When the twin towers fell down there was video footage in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, Syria, etc...and in every single place the muslims (as they are islamic nations) the majority of the people were all celebrating the worst calamity since the holocaust.}

Whoah...

Getting a bit carried away here mate....

I dont know where you got the footage for this bang up islamic world wide celebration of 911 party from but I remember footage of candle light vigils, messages of support etc from most of the said countries...

the only celebratory footage that did beam out was from Palestine..Gaza...
Now there is the site of worst calamity since the holocaust...still in progress...
when it comes to post WWII atrocities around the world...911 is way down on both body count and suffering caused

but then again most of those calamitites happened to "unpeople" carried out by the good ole boys and girls, so you can safely get away with preposterous claims like yours...