Nativity
Did I miss something?
I recall my grandmother’s delicately placed porcelain figures arranged around a peaceful baby Jesus in a manger. I dont recall any violence.
Away in a manger, no crib for a bed,
The little Lord Jesus laid down His sweet head.
The stars in the sky looked down where He lay,
The little Lord Jesus, asleep on the hay.
The cattle are lowing, the Baby awakes,
The little Lord Jesus, ass kicking He makes;
I love Thee, Lord Jesus, you’ve killed the bad guys
Now pose menacingly till morning is nigh.
Who directed this? The Wachowski Brothers?
1. DarrenJSeeley replies at 30th November 2006, 8:04 am :
I think the violence part of it could relate to Joeseph. He took the lashings in Mary’s place before they married.
2. Norddeth replies at 30th November 2006, 8:07 am :
How about you watch the movie then comment, sounds like a crazy idea I know, but give it a try.
Nord
3. Gary replies at 30th November 2006, 8:23 am :
Not quite like the Hostel movies you enjoy so much… God forbid there be any type of movie with morality it in eh? Ever so unpopular I know. These types of movies never seem to please… maybe if there were zombies in it you might like it more. Or maybe if Jesus was a demon killing people… you’d probably love it.
4. Calviin replies at 30th November 2006, 8:33 am :
What is with you guys, Nord and Dary?
He wasn’t rating or insulting the movie with this post. He was just surprised that Violence is listed as an attribute to a story that most people have not associated as being violent.
To John: I can believe violence. Violent is probably the most accurate description of a woman’s actions while giving natural child birth in a barn. ~_’
-Calviin
5. Calviin replies at 30th November 2006, 8:35 am :
Damn I suck.
Umm. I meant Gary, not Dary.
and Rodney, not John.
I will hide now.
-Calviin
6. Rodney replies at 30th November 2006, 9:14 am :
Thank you Calviin. I think bother Gary and Norddeth need to read the posts before responding.
My surprise was that I tend not to relate any violence to the Nativity scene. But with a closer investigation, and some insight from a man who knows the bible much better than me:
“According to Matthew, King Herod ordered the Magi to report back to him after they’d seen Christ, so he could have him killed. The Magi were warned in a dream, and fled. This got Herod a little peeved.”
I couldnt imagine then dragging out 90 minutes of movie revolving around a baby not crying in a manger. There needs to be some drama.
7. Mmmmmhmmmm replies at 30th November 2006, 9:15 am :
The violence most likely is referring to the actions of King Herod who had all male children under 2 years old killed in an attempt to kill Jesus. Just a thought.
8. Ricci replies at 30th November 2006, 9:34 am :
When films state shit like ‘1 use of foul language’ or ‘one scene of mild violence’ its not suprising the nativity, if told in its true context would contain reference to and some actual violence, enough at least to have violence listed under its PG rating.
9. John Campea replies at 30th November 2006, 10:23 am :
Nordeth and Gary,
Can’t you guys recognize pure sarcasm when you see it?
10. Jarred replies at 30th November 2006, 10:42 am :
I think it was a joke
11. Jenny replies at 30th November 2006, 10:53 am :
I read in the paper that the violence is due to the depiction of Harod having all of the male children under the age of 2 killed like Mmmmmhmmmm said (which if you can’t place that bit in the story, it is the reason why the couple and child fled to Egypt)
12. Alfredo replies at 30th November 2006, 10:54 am :
Is this going to be like The Passion? Will there be 40 mins of Mary giving birth in the most painful way possible?
13. Henrik replies at 30th November 2006, 11:24 am :
This is like the Passion in that it’s an attempt to cash in on people’s faith. There’s nothing unique and/or original going on here, nor anything creative.
Maybe God’s chosen ones think that the bible is outdated and they better spread the word through the movies… Just goes to show you audacity and arrogance of the people who follow religion. If God meant for his message to be shown through a movie, he would have come down and told somebody to make it, just like he did with all the scriptures.
14. Andrew replies at 30th November 2006, 12:11 pm :
Oh yes, it’s definitely a cash-in. It’s definitely not an attempt to spread the Gospel through a different medium than is normally done in attempts that people that usually wouldn’t hear about it just might.
Yea, that’s definitely not it. It’s greedy corporate heads who spent months making a christian-based film without ever once thinking they are doing a good thing for anyone else but themselves. Yea, that’s what Christianity is about.
Jaded prick.
15. Henrik replies at 30th November 2006, 12:27 pm :
All I’m saying is God wanted a book written, and obviously he doesn’t feel a need to change anything, otherwise he would have sent an angel to tell us what we needed to change, just like he used to.
16. Babz replies at 30th November 2006, 12:52 pm :
Why are anyone surprised that they are bringing violence to this story… They got away with Passion, they get away with this.
17. Babz replies at 30th November 2006, 12:53 pm :
Why is everybody surprised that they are bringing violence to this story… They got away with Passion, they get away with this.
18. The Jim Walker replies at 30th November 2006, 1:07 pm :
I have heard that this movie involves time travel, wizards, & Nazis. So that is probably where the violence comes in. Those crazy Nazis!
19. SadSteve replies at 30th November 2006, 1:15 pm :
I’ve seen this. The violence is when Herod tries to have all the children under 2 killed. It doesn’t last long but is at the beginning and end of the film.
The rest of the film is pure cheese though. It starts not too badly but you don’t get engaged with the characters at all and by the end you don’t really care. I expected Monty Python to turn up by the time they got to the birth of Jesus - I thought Brian might have been next door.
20. movie replicas replies at 30th November 2006, 1:29 pm :
jim walker, don’t forget about the decepticons, apparently they will be making a cameo appearance
21. Figment replies at 30th November 2006, 2:59 pm :
Sadsteve, just you mentioning “Life of Brian” made me smile. The best part about “The Passion of the Christ” was when the surviving members of Python decided to bring it back to theaters as counter-programming. It even started on Good Friday (according to the BBC, at least) =D
22. Wormwood replies at 30th November 2006, 4:52 pm :
That’s because the part:
“..because there was no room for them at the Inn; so they got pissed.”
Has been cut out of a lot of texts.
23. GODFATHER replies at 30th November 2006, 5:55 pm :
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24. KRAWLER replies at 1st December 2006, 1:40 am :
Ummm yea not much to say about this one, not seeing the movie anyway,,,
The Krawler-
(scurry away from the fat man with the knife..for he can not run)\m/
25. Christopher Taylor replies at 1st December 2006, 11:47 am :
I’m not sure how a story about lashing, beating, and crucifying someone is “getting away” with putting violence in a story by anyone. From the historical information I’ve read the depiction of the whipping and crucifiction in the Passion of Christ was historically accurate.
26. Jason Blosser replies at 1st December 2006, 12:41 pm :
The violence is reported to be the portral of Herod’s Slaughter of the Innocents. Read Matthew’s Gospel, the first couple of chapters.
27. John Neal replies at 1st December 2006, 12:52 pm :
READ THE STORY, there is violence in it!
Do you not recall the killing of all the first born to try to kill baby Jesus?
28. CW1985 replies at 1st December 2006, 4:35 pm :
Wachowski brother and sister, now
29. Douglas replies at 2nd December 2006, 2:39 pm :
Let not forget the wonderful example that is set for our kids to have the title charactor played by a 16 y/o unmarried, pregnant girl. Isn’t those wonderful christian values something
30. Rodney replies at 2nd December 2006, 6:00 pm :
Douglas, apparently cultural relevance is completely lost on you. But go ahead and blame the Christians for a book they didnt write.
31. Douglas replies at 2nd December 2006, 8:56 pm :
What cultural relevance would that be
32. Rodney replies at 2nd December 2006, 9:43 pm :
Mary did nothing wrong, and she was already betrothed to Joseph. God chose her as the vessel to fulfill the prophecy of a virgin birth. She is blameless in the situation. How is it that you now blame her for a sin she didnt commit.
Its not a sin to be pregnant. Its a sin to have premarital sex. Mary did not have premarital sex.
The cultural relevance is that it ISN,T alright to be pregnant and unmarried (the result of premarital sex) and God knew that she would endure much when she attempted to explain that she was still pure yet carried a child. Thats the point. In no way is Mary considered a role model for pregnant unwed teens.
But typical as it was then for you to jump to that conclusion now.